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  • #16
    Hi David,
    yes, they are hard to get. Since most PIs are in UK I posted an Add on the UK TR Register Site
    https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php

    Click image for larger version  Name:	PI Air Intake.JPG Views:	1 Size:	95.9 KB ID:	518453
    You need
    Item 74 (Air Plenum)
    Item 93 (Bracket)
    instead of Item 86, you should install Item 109 which is a K&N RU2710 and can be bought almost anywhere.
    Do not install the K&N Filter like the picture on the Air Plenum (Item 74) but on Item 93 !
    Item 84 (Hose) can be bought anywhere with much better quality as the plastic stuff.
    Item 77 (Stay) is nice, but not required.

    Hope this helps.

    Jochem
    Last edited by JochemsTR; 12-30-2018, 07:23 AM.
    Flying Dutchman drives: TR6 - 1973 - 56/11 - CF1xxxxUO - J-OD - Kent 280° - EMU Black - Phoenix - 205/70 on 7x15

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    • #17
      Hello group!

      Does anyone have experience with a 123ignition electronic distributor for an EFI system on one of our engines?

      Many thanks for any advice or comments.

      D

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      • #18
        I might be wrong on this, but...
        Don't see any reason for something like that as the computer controls the firing

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        • #19
          There is no such thing as a 123Ignition electronic distributor.

          Either
          - an electronic distributor such as a wasted spark coil via ECU, (or Megajolt)
          - or an 123Ignition which distributes thru the regular distributor.

          I had a 123 Ignition installed. With EFI system the ECU does all the work with the coil. You can use a single coil with distributor also with ECU.
          But you should really not use the 123 Ignition and its programmable ignition curve and parallel an ECU.

          Jochem
          Flying Dutchman drives: TR6 - 1973 - 56/11 - CF1xxxxUO - J-OD - Kent 280° - EMU Black - Phoenix - 205/70 on 7x15

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          • #20
            Get rid of the dizzy and go with a multispark system

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            • #21
              Hello group!
              1. Thanks for the assistance so far. I was able to source a plenum and air box from a member on the UK TR registry list. I've decided to go with a Link Storm ECU. We'll be using mostly GM sensors, and will probably go with BMW injectors.
              2. But we're stuck on finding a suitable crankshaft position sensor, hopefully one that will not look too out-of-place in the engine bay. Can anyone provide any recommendations?

              Really appreciate the advice; thanks again.

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              • #22
                Hello David,
                Link Storm...nice....but expensive. Just a shame there is no mounted/integrated MAP Sensor...what was your reason for this decision?
                A suitable VR or Hall Sensor for your triggerwheel...plenty available....mine is mounted @ 10 oclock positon (standing in front of the car, looking towards the crankcase). Be careful, some ECUs require specific position and specific Triggerwheel Missing Tooth position.
                Mine has a 61mm overall lenght and a AMP connector (MX5004, www.ifm.com) Some come with a cable attached, but this is inconvenient in case of a replacement.
                Jochem
                Flying Dutchman drives: TR6 - 1973 - 56/11 - CF1xxxxUO - J-OD - Kent 280° - EMU Black - Phoenix - 205/70 on 7x15

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                • #23
                  Way back in 2005 I did a EDIS system for my car. First picture is my VR mount, it bolted onto the alternator adjustment bracket and a bolt hole down at the bottom of the block. Trigger wheel wasn't optimum but it was available. Second picture is from the kits I offered at one time. The VR mount was elongated for the earlier adjustment brackets but again two bolts. VR sensor is FORD with pointer cut off. this trigger wheel I designed myself for a cleaner install and had several cut for me. A friend did something similar for his GT6, but he put the trigger wheel on the front of the damper. A popular position. I didn't do that as it looks too much like a buzzsaw, so put mine on the back side. Coil pack mount bolts into the coil mount holes on the block.

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                  • #24
                    1. Thank you Jochem and HuhReally for your helpful posts. I'm writing to respond and provide a little update, as well as to ask for yet a bit more guidance, this time about coils.
                    2. First of all, my reason for deciding on the Link Storm engine control unit (ECU) instead of Megasquirt. Although the Link was a little more expensive, my mechanic said he'd more experience with the Link, and that there were a fair number of skilled tuners in my area (Toronto). As well, the Storm would be fairly simple to configure and install. The Link's oxygen / lambda sensor is extra and relatively expensive, but my mechanic had an extra oxygen sensor that we will be using
                    3. Jochem correctly commented that the Link Storm does not have an integrated mass air pressure (MAP) sensor. I purchased an Ultra-Power MAF from RockAuto for CAD 55. My plan is to hide it inside of the old plenum.
                    4. Thank you both Jochem and HuhReally for your assistance with the crankshaft sensor. I found an appropriate sensor on www.ifm.com, reasonably priced and in stock. The old product code MX5004 has been replaced by MX5000.

                    5. And now for my question. My plan is to go distributorless and so plan to get a set of coils. I'm considering either
                    a) AEM 30-2853 or
                    b) MSD 5511.
                    The AEM coils are about 50% more expensive. Both are readily available and I understand both should work. I've heard that the AEM coils are easier to configure while the smaller MSD coils are easier to fit.

                    Does anyone have any experience with these coils that they can share?

                    Again many thanks; I really appreciate the help.
                    D

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                    • #25
                      David,
                      the MX5000 is a little longer. Works the same.
                      Why don't you use a wasted spark coil such as Beru ZSE004 or Bosch equivalent?? Your coil choice is a single coil, so you need six of them. Six to be wired, six to be positioned and held. Six of them to be configured. Also check your ECU. My Ecumaster EMU Black hat coils with dwelltime pre-configured. This means, for a non-pre-configured coil you need to find out the data sheet. Especially for coils they are hard to get. I conducted laboratory measurements to determine exact dwelltimes and measured primary current and secundary high voltage....
                      Jochem
                      Last edited by JochemsTR; 03-17-2019, 01:45 AM.
                      Flying Dutchman drives: TR6 - 1973 - 56/11 - CF1xxxxUO - J-OD - Kent 280° - EMU Black - Phoenix - 205/70 on 7x15

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